ok, so I saw this headline on the NYT - 3 More Die in Pakistan Cartoon Protests. It's sad that a small minority of people are making their countries look bad and furthering prejudice towards their religion.
Honestly though, you don't think they're really rioting and killing people because of the cartoon or anything associated with it do you? I think enough of them are aware that this is not the first depiction of Mohammad and so the issue isn't that some pasty a**ed Dane drew a cartoon of their prophet. I doubt the issue for most of them is that the cartoon was demeaning. People get upset when their religion is attacked but rioting and burning and killing because of a freakin' cartoon? ..Come on.... remember the uproar over piss Christ?? I mean, hello.. there's Jesus dunked in piss. That's pretty doggone offensive. Did we see people destroying buidlings and killing people over it? Nope.. Or... do you remember Chris Ofili's Virgin Mary collage in the Sensation show at the Brooklyn Museum of Art? I do.. I was there.. yeah, it was offensive.. I saw the Virgin Mary covered with elephant shizel.. but then I saw the shark that Hirst sliced in half.. that took my mind off of religion.. and then there was that head made from frozen blood and the thing was in a freezer and the cord to the freezer was plugged into the wall just tempting everyone to unplug it and make the head melt.. it made me wonder what would happen if somebody stuck their tongue on that frozen head. Would they get stuck to it? oh.. sorry.. so anyway, the riots aren't about this stupid cartoon. They're about Western influence that has slowly crept into the region. It's people stuck in the 14th century being outraged that the 21st century is encroaching on their way of life and religion. That is understandable to some extent. It's human nature to be afraid of massive change.
But.. what will those folks (and the radical Christian fundamentalists in the US) do when the Singularity is here? The radicals on both sides are totally incapable of seeing beyond their religions, so what is going to happen when the reality of the world contains things like:
* humans that live for 300+ years .. hmm.. who is "chosen" to live..
* humans that are enhanced with computer chips.. it's coming folks.. faster thinking, instant knowledge, more memory.. it's not IF, but WHEN
* artists and musicians that are totally computer based via artificial intelligence... hmm.. what if one of them draws a cartoon? Do we threaten to unplug it?
* spiritual machines.. yeah.. the Southern Baptist Convention has kicked churches out of their flock for baptizing gays.. just wait until a machine wants to be a member of Upper South Fork Full Gospel Missionary Baptist Church. W00t!
* massive technology changes (airplanes, cell phones, the Internet, skype, google, the clapper, etc) happen on a weekly or daily timeframe rather than decades or years. Your culture is having trouble adjusting to current technologies? And what happens when global technology changes daily?
* A clone of Pamela Anderson on every street corner.. and you thought genetics was all about making bigger pumpkins and chickens with all white meat? HA!
I'm not scared now.. but I'm scared of what the fruitcakes of the world are going to do when the world changes faster than they can adapt. Oh.. wait.. that's already happening and we're just seeing the beginnings of the technology train getting up to speed. It won't slow down. our cultures will not stay the same. Our religions will not stay the same. Information/news/data will move globally at an ever faster pace. Killing people wont slow down the changes (ask Ted K how much he's slowed down the advance of technology). So when that rapid delivery of information/news/data drops a burning sack of dog $hit on your doorstep in the form of an offensive cartoon.. don't step on it.
I normally don't post politically oriented stuff to my blog.. but it's just wrong for the world (and the media) to sit on it's hands and not speak up. We need to let radicals know that it is NOT ok to go around killing people because of a stupid cartoon. Now renaming "Danish pastries" that are made and sold in Iran to "Roses of the Prophet Mohammad".. that's cool.. because here in the US we eat "freedom fries" and "freedom toast". (wow.. I haven't heard those names since.. like two minutes after somebody came up with them).
I think I'll go buy some Danish cookies or something... poor little Denmark is always getting the shaft..
Cartoons don’t kill, people kill.. Wednesday, February 15, 2006
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16 Feb 2006 at 05:13 am | #
Quote: "this is not the first depiction of Mohammad"
Just a note here, someone at ComputerArts magazine asked me to give details about my Islamic view in design as he read Our Vision part on my site.
As a part of my reply I wrote this:
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There are many "Ahadeeth" (Prophet Muhammad PPBUH sayings) found in "AlBokhary" and "Muslim" books, that prohibits painting Human characters, or Animals You can find these here (http://hadith.al-islam.com/Bayan/)
More English Books about Ahadeeth:
Indexed Lexicon - Fensink - Cairo 1936 - Part 3 - page 437
Islamic Book -Sir Thomas W. Arnold & Prof. Grohmann
Arabic Painting - Richard Ettinghausin
Painting in Islam - Sir Thomas W. Arnold - 1928
Islamic Painting - 1971
French Books:
Search for "Bishr Faress"
Recommended links about Islam:
http://www.shagarah.com
Very Breef History:
After Prophet Muhammad PPBUH died, there was a while (3th Hijry century, 9th JC) till attempts of gathering his "sayings" (from people like Albokhary) started.
Then, they "discovered" that among these where the prohibitition of Human and Animals painting . (Which by the way was prohibited by early Christians and Jews too)
This was because not "everyone" then knew "everything", or was near Prophet Muhammad PPBUH all the time, and many people travelled to spread Islam, so finally came someones like Albokhary and Mulim and travelled everywhere they could to gather these sayings VERY honestly in books.
There were many interpretations since then, regarding Human and Animals paintings prohibitation.
At first it was entirely prohibited, as people where very sure of it, and this lasted for many centuries. (That was in Arab area only but Persians didn't took that seriously as it appears.)
When Prophet Muhammad PPBUH, in his latest days, knew that Persians Muslims draw Humans and Animals, he ordered to draw just "Plants"
if neccessary.
Gradually, after Prophet Muhammad died people tried to draw "lines" of Human characters (no attempts of 3D) to express human characters or animals.
Some Arab Muslims during middle centuries (medieval) DID picture human illustrations found in manuscripts either in an literature context (like kids stories) OR "For scientific benefits" but with limitations, as a part of some interpretations of Ahadeeth.
So there were 2 lines here: using Human and Animal illustrations for literature (Characterized by showing off Artist talent), AND using them for "clarifying" some scientific researches (No showing off)
More in Islamic Sciences & Scientists history here:
http://www.islamfortoday.com/history.htm
At the beginings of the 20th century, Muslim countries were very "weak" and Islam became weaker and weaker in minds and souls while people were gradually influenced by the Western Civilization (eg. French Troops came to Egypt and then English in the previous centuary 19th, and also while the beginings of Phaeros discoveries) and painiting became gradiualy accepted by the new layer of "western educated" Arabs (Muslims and Christians)
By now painting (and naturaly all related Arts) became a very common, yet "civilized" feature in life for "many" Muslims (NOT ALL), even if it's way too far from their western similars.
For me, I was of course a part of this all along espacially, that I was a Fine Arts student. inwhich our studies focused on western Art histories
It was not before very recently that I discovered that it's prohibited by Islam to picture a Human character (Not to mention a mokery of the prophet PPBUH)
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Personaly, I don't agree with killing foreigners
in the Muslim countries, BUT the thing that you don't (obviously can't) understand is that religion to us Muslims, is not a "phase" the "evolution" process, it's simply everything.
There are somethings called CONSTANTS (doesn't exist at the west except maybe in programming) and other things called VARIABLES.
So when anyone touchs it, it's like (for you) pointing a gun towards your head.
So, for Denmark thing, boycotting is the "suitable" reaction "in my opinion".
I've already discussed this here, and came up with a bad impression.
16 Feb 2006 at 08:58 am | #
Thanks Ahmad.. I also went through art school and studied art history and know why Muslims _should_ be upset over depictions of Mohammad.. historically there have been times when the Islamic world simply didn't react to such images.. both long ago and in very recent history. So to suddenly have this long standing (but sometimes enforced.. sometimes not) rule brought up as the reasoning for a violent reaction seems, well, not to be such a good reason for killing people.
And as for me not understanding that religion can be "everything"... I live in the "Bible belt" of the US where if you go to the right place you just might find a church where people handle live rattlesnakes to show their faith. However those types of churches are being changed by modern culture moving into the area and they may already be changed entirely..
16 Feb 2006 at 12:11 pm | #
quote "So to suddenly have this long standing (but sometimes enforced.. sometimes not) rule brought up as the reasoning for a violent reaction seems, well, not to be such a good reason for killing people.
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Mike, I didn't say that was the reason for violence. Mocking was the reason for deep "anger".
Prophet Muhammad (PPBUH) represents Islam AND his followers, so mocking Muhammad is Mocking Islam.
Violence, burning flags, harming foreigners "in Muslim countries" is not an Islamic teaching, in the contrary, respect and yet, protection of foreigners is, as long as they do not betray us.
But that's NOT the case when someone from outside, hurt us so deeply. In this case the least we can do is to boycott, also I'm with further "peacefull" protesting till we have a guarantee (with a law) no simalar actions occur.
Quote: "However those types of churches are being changed by modern culture moving into the area and they may already be changed entirely..
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That's what I meant by "VARIABLES". If TRUE Islam is practiced, the core shouldn't be changed, maybe new aspects that come over in life should have a religious direction, but the CONSTANTS , no.
17 Feb 2006 at 09:53 am | #
The reason of that killing acts can only be related with the education level of those guys.. it does not an aspect which islam really wanted..
In any part of the world, people, who came from similar backgrounds to those arab guys, can be voilent as well.. It is all about education and knowing yourself